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Natural conspiracy? fruits!

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This is a question that has been now in my minds for many years, i would like to share this with the readers, people from botany or science background plz enligten me..

As the legend goes that an apple fell on newton’s head and he asked “why” and that led to the discovery of laws of gravitation.
So another smart guy in India (hah! thts me) was eating an apple and he realised just for this small 2 to 3 seeds why does the tree take all the trouble to create this fruit. I mean the tree stores all its energy in the fruits, why would a plant do that. Take for instance water melon, it stores so much water in its fruits just for some dry seeds or does it have any other reason to do so. does that plant make the fruit on purpose so that the animals can feed on it??.
Leave the fruit aside there are those thorny seeds that gets struck on your clothes and on fur of sheeps and goats, my science teacher told me that the plant has those kind of seeds so that it would get struck on sheeps and goats and can spread itself to wider distance. Ok agreed. But how does the plant know k that sheeps and goats are going to carry it, how is the plant aware of the existence of sheeps and goats.
also i saw in discovery once, that there is a seed of some tree which some squirrels like or other such animals take and hide them inside the mud to eat later, and the seeds are such that if it hasnt been dug inside the earth it wont germinate. So the existence of that tree depends on these animals, there was some logic in that but i forgot actually, the plants fruits were specially conditioned by the plant so that this could happen. so it means that the plant know about those animals?? how does it know.
There are numerous such plants which spread its seeds after the animal has excreted it, as if the plant knew that the seed would be eaten so the seeds are made such that it wont become useless after going thru the process of digestion and excretion.
Is there a natural conspiracy in this, are the plants designed in such a way to suit the other forms of life, All this complex universe working in this amazing order perfectly, its too perfect to be true. It seems like universe has been created on purpose, something hard for an atheist like me to digest. Theory of evolution is about the path taken by individual species for their own benefit, but in this complex universe that seems incompatible. seems like everything has been set in order by some force. some force that balances these numerous physical and natural laws. As if these laws were made on purpose to suit us. There are enuf things for us to eat, why is it that there are fruits, vegetables, cerals and pulses. why no other category, it seems so perfect. A complete diet has been created..
sometimes i just think too much.
though i dont care for comments much, but i wud appreciate if someone can solve this question for me..
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Written by maya

June 18, 2009 at 6:29 pm

Posted in uncommon

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  1. Couldn't make anything in/out of itVery thoughtful, although 😀

    Tarun Goel

    June 19, 2009 at 5:20 pm

  2. Haha, an atheist is in a wrong track! Don't believe this … just don't believe. We work on adaptation too. So, in case there was no water melon or fruit, we would have tried to survive without them.I feel a natural force can be there, but not as perfect as you think it to be. There are bits and pieces that are created, and every individual struggles its best to exist with those bits. The best survives, and the adaptation is definitely successful for those who survive.Those who fail are forgotten … dumped in history. Like extinct animals, failed human races. They don't win the race, but somehow we do. For how long? we don't know.I may have confused you even more now! hehehe

    IdleMind

    September 30, 2009 at 2:23 pm

  3. thats exactly where all the talk about higher essence comes in. you have the answer in your questions itself, you already know it. so there.

    Tongue Trip

    September 30, 2009 at 2:40 pm

  4. @ idle ya i understand how the adaptation to the envirnment works, but my main question being about what the energy gets stored in fruits in such excess, why does a plant need fruit in first place..

    Uncommon Sense

    September 30, 2009 at 3:47 pm

  5. ooo Us if u question this , you should question everything in nature ..why does the sun not change its path ?? why the river flows downward ?? why stars cant be visible in daytime ?? had you asked your teacher these questions , she would have given you answers for everyone of them just the way she taught u abt seed dispersal …and you would have asked how the sun understands its east ? how does water ustd that it has to flow towards gravity ? and so on … your curiosity is endless but unfortunately nothing new will come out of this !!!! 😛

    vicious

    September 30, 2009 at 4:29 pm

  6. a plant needs a fruit for the simple reason that it has to reproduce .. a rose plant dusnt have a fruit cause it can reproduce through its stem cutting …

    vicious

    September 30, 2009 at 4:31 pm

  7. @ viciall the question that u mentioned has an answer, sun doesnt understands east, directions are created by us..water flowing downwords has a reason,,, but what i m asking is a much different question.. may b u shud read it again.. wht i m asking doesnt have an answer..

    Uncommon Sense

    September 30, 2009 at 4:33 pm

  8. @ vici plants reproduce thru seeds,, there is no need for an apple to grow the whole fruit just to carry some small seeds

    Uncommon Sense

    September 30, 2009 at 4:34 pm

  9. the answers to ur questions can only be answered by the greatest of intellectuals and since Newton is dead I recommend u stand next to ur house and ask one of ur friend(R1 seems perfect) to throw a watermelon on ur head…if u find the answer ..u know whom to thank..and if u still are confused the watermelon probably did not hit the right spot..u can ask R1 to repeat the process aiming at different spots..or better replace the water in the watermelon with concrete..

    what nobody thinks

    September 30, 2009 at 8:13 pm

  10. hmm…bahut free time hai tere pass…waise actual reason to mere ko bhi pata nahi.Biology me symbiosis bol ke kuch padha tha…the reason for this kind of particular give and take relationship is not known to me.

    abhishek

    September 30, 2009 at 8:55 pm

  11. @what nobody thinks… so some one has been following ardently..@ abhishek "symbiosis" yes! thts what its called.. the relationship between plant and animal helping each other, primary being mutual relationship between bees and flowers for pollination.. my primary doubt here was "does the plant know about the existence of animals and humans" if not then there is third angle (or wud say a god angle) the answer is yes plants do know about these animals and humans around it, we all forgot jc bose and his experiments, which proves plants feel and have a cell structure similar to animals, moreover he goes on to propose that plants have nervous system.. so since, since plants are aware of all this, and makes the fruits or flowers on purpose ( a barter, were it gives the fruits to animals to attain some purpose), my doubts stands to be cleared.. @tongue trip.. yes the answer is in every one of us, if we stop putting god behind everything we will get the answers – logically@ everyone thanks for chipping in with ur views

    Uncommon Sense

    September 30, 2009 at 9:49 pm

  12. Philosophy is not what i expected from Maya but there you go.. :)There is a book called "The Mind of God" by Paul Davies which i had read some time back.. its very interesting and asks questions similar to what you have.. His basic hypothesis is if there is no God then who made objects follow law of physics, chemistry etc. Why are some of the things deterministic and others random. Are random things really random or is it just that we just dont understand the mind of god??.. I think you will like that book.. :)As far as your question goes "I dont have any answer" but would love to hear what your take on this is 🙂

    Uday

    October 1, 2009 at 9:47 am

  13. @ udaythou i havent read that book but i have been wondering on similar lines these days.. Why we have more iron deposits one earth than gold.. why the things we need most are in higher quantity? may be someone knew we need iron for the machines, the buildings and everything..may be i am going to reconsider my atheist position..

    Uncommon Sense

    October 1, 2009 at 10:08 am

  14. I think it has something to do with group evolution. {x,y,z} which could be {monkey, plant A, rat} if they are living together in an environment will develop special characteristics to exploit each others presence. I think evolution takes a direction drawn out by the local environment and neighbouring species.Beautifully articulated question. I like the way you have thought through all the aspects and presented it here. I dont think we know the definitive or even plausible answer to it though.

    L. Venkata Subramaniam

    October 1, 2009 at 4:53 pm

  15. I feel dumb! All the comments and thoughts here are so very advanced for my mind to even comprehend. All I can say is the articulation of facts and the subtle way of putting forth the question has put me in a state of endlessness. Every answer that comes to me helps only to raise another question. May be I should be meditating under the Banyan tree, and the tree would know (as it has been suggested here) "Here comes an idiot who thinks he can become the Buddha"!- Vittal

    Vittaldas Prabhu

    October 2, 2009 at 3:13 am

  16. God created it all perfectly. We are all an experiment and God is watching us all fuck up this planet. Someday, she will get bored and throw the switch on the sun that will kill us all, slowly.N

    Nothingman

    October 2, 2009 at 6:50 am

  17. @ venkat.. yes it cud be group evolution, thnks for liking the post@ vitall.. i think buddha sat under pepal tree, also i belive sitting under a tree has some positive effects on thought process.. not only buddha and newton all the saints used to meditate under the tree..@nothing.. i dont belive in god. but i do sometimes think this planet cud be an experiment

    Uncommon Sense

    October 2, 2009 at 10:57 am


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